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    He’s A She? She’s A He? Oh… No. Sorry.

    Just your run of the mill wreck that found his own post.

    If you’re a fan on facebook, you probably were following this as it was developing toward the end of last week and into the weekend.

    It started here:

    Susan () wrote:
    Dear Jami,
    My boyfriend is listed out hear
    on your website.
    I knew he was fooling around
    on okcupid.
    He used the name musclebranm.
    He normally is a nice,sensitive person.
    But I kinda knew he was on cupid acting the fool.
    I was wondering if you could please delete his blurry picture for me. I don’t
    want to be embarrassed if our friends happen to stumple upon it.
    I understand what you are trying to do here. Acting like a
    moron is not acceptable.
    But in your heart if you could help my situation I would greatly appreciate it.
    God help me if my parents somehow find out about it.
    With Sincere Regards,
    Susan
    Thanks for your consideration. I promise to keep a tighter leash on him.

    I got this email while having dinner with my friends Lisa and John and we were talking about Date Wrecks (John is a huge fan — hi, John!) and this popped up on my phone. I immediately said, “Ooh, drama!” And then followed that up with, “Oh for fuck’s sake. This is totally NOT his girlfriend.”

    So I replied:

    Listen, dude. I’m not stupid. Every time you leave a comment on the blog, it also lists your IP address — a NY IP address.

    If you’re so insistent on getting your post removed from Date Wrecks, here’s what you do:

    Write a letter of apology to the Date Wrecks community and Emily, personally. In this letter of apology, you should outline all the ways you were a douchenozzle, some brainstorming ideas for the future so that you don’t remain a douchenozzle and you should tell us why you’re grateful for Date Wrecks for swatting you with a clue by four. You should also apologize (names aren’t necessary) to the people in your life who have been affected by your wrecky behavior.

    Once I receive this letter, I will replace the post in question with your letter and all pictures, usernames, and commentary written in the post by myself or Emily will be gone forever.

    Did you really think I’d sympathize with a fake woman named Susan that you made up to try to weasel your way out of this? C’mon dude. I’ve been doing this a long time. I can smell the wreck on you.

    Let me know how you’d like to proceed.

    Jami

    This guy had an exchange with Emily over IM where showed his douche. It wasn’t THAT bad of a post, considering some of the behavior we’ve seen, but still a wreck. It was interesting to me that he would go to such lengths to remove his post.

    I was really hoping he was a politician or something.

    Jami,
    You are correct and I assumed you did have the IP.
    I do have a girlfriend and family, and playing not nicely on a free singles website at the expense of others looking for a relationship was not a nice thing to do in retrospect.
    Initally I though it would be funny, but by all the other stories out there all in all I see the people at the other end are real humans seeking intimacy.
    Please let me know if the letter you speak of should be by email such as this?

    Again Jami I do understand what you are doing here, and for woman with children doing their best to survive and find a man to enlighten their life, these type of wanton, and insulting messages are wasteful and sad.
    Personally Jami I would like you to know I am a good person, and I am the first to help friends , family, and other when I am asked. First impression is always the lasting one, so I know you might have a difficult time realizing the truth of what I am trying to communicate here.
    The language I used in the message although not the worst I have incountered in my life, would have a disappointing impact on those whom I love and rely on me and would expect more of me.
    I really do hope you can begin to see Im not the irresponsible, flagrant, disrespectful person that I seemed to be at first glance or encounter.
    Jami. please advise the next step to remedy this situation.
    Again I truly do appoligize I do want to right this wrong. I think if I didn’t feel strongly about myself and the others in my life and I was a real jerk I would not have bothered to reach out to you.
    Please Advise.
    Thank you.

    When he said, “Please Advise” I immediately thought of Eric. So please, be advised. Is anyone else annoyed yet at his random spacing/hard return abuse yet? And holy fucking hell… “to survive and find a man to enlighten their life”!?

    ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS!?

    But alright, I’ve got our first every apology right here, on the line. I’m trying not to spook him.

    It would be best for you to send the message in-line as text via email. Please make sure to be sincere and follow the guidelines I outlined for you in my last email.

    Also, you can find the details here.

    Jami

    So then I got it. The apology!

    I can’t tell you how thrilled I was to receive this apology, guys. I mean, this is all I had ever hoped to get from Buffalo Bill and he just kept disappointing me.

    Alllllrighty. So, I thought it would be fun to “red pen” this apology into shreds. Click on the image for the full size view and click here to see the unedited version.

    apology red penned edition1 Hes A She? Shes A He? Oh... No. Sorry.

    That was fun. Heh.

    So I replied:

    I’m not really feeling this, man.

    I mean, you didn’t address calling me a whore or a cunt in the comments. You posted comments insinuating that you would like to make plans to track me down and harm me…

    You didn’t address Emily, specifically, particularly in that really ugly comment that I refuse to approve where you suggest that child services needs to be called to remove her children because she owns a dildo. Seriously? Not to mention all the ugly names you called her

    I mean, you said some pretty hateful things about both of us and none of that was addressed.

    I’m wondering if you’re really sorry or if you’re just really trying to get the post removed so that you don’t get in trouble. I’m not really picking up on any sincerity in your apology, man.

    Jami

    I mean, really… The apology was a bunch of fluffy shit and no substance. C’mon dude.

    Jami,

    To repeat derogatory words that were written in a particular moment of time really doesn’t seem productive.
    Like I said I never viewed “Emily’s profile prior to writing what I thought was words that were mean’t to provoke humor not anger.
    There is no hate Jami. I am trying to take back senseless comments. I made no reference to :harming you”
    I don’t think I personally said anything against you. I don’t know you and I don’t know Emily.

    What exactly do you want me to do at this point?

    Holy shit. I bet he was one of those teenagers where his mom would say, “Pick up after yourself!” and he’d roll his eyes, pick up his shoes and hold them and then stare blankly at her and say, “What exactly do you want me to do at this point?”

    What I WANT you to do, mister is write a fucking sincere apology. Is this a foreign concept? We went over this a lot when I was a kid.

    Things that don’t qualify, “I’m sorry you got your feelings hurt.” No. That’s not an apology. An apology is, “I’m sorry that I hurt your feelings.” You take ownership for your actions and for what those actions did to others. Seriously.

    This is a grown ass man.

    So he tries again.

    Jami,
    I just reread your comments below.
    My knee jerk reaction was to strike back at Emily. I didn’t think my banter with her was that important to be put in a post on a website. So hopefully you can understand my knee jerk reaction, especially with other
    people whom I have no idea of who they are chiming in as well. I don’t think a momentary brief encounter of words formulates who the person is writing it at that moment in time.
    I have said to you I do understand Emily is looking for a relationship after reading her profile after the fact, and to start an errant conversation with her was not a kind thing to do.
    And I am sorry I did that, and then tried to insult her to get back for the post.

    Again repeating words that are better left unsaid I don’t think is appropriate.
    Jami, I do understand as I said before what your are trying to accomplish here, and I do feel for Emily, and her having to raise a child alone.
    I will state again, I am truly an honest , caring , kind person who doesnt like to see anyone hurt in any manner or form.

    The post of me is not true to my character, its was taken from a moment in time. We all have moments we wish would not have transpired. It would be hard for my loved ones to understand if in fact they very ran across it.

    So Jami can we please remove the post and please let us move on with our lives.

    Best Regards.

    What the fuck is up with your knee jerking ass hole? Did you just say that you FEEL for Emily trying to raise a child alone? Somebody go get my gun.

    [deeeeep breath] Alright, I’m not going to go off on a motherfucker about single parenthood. Sweet Jesus. YOU FEEL FOR HER? Okay, okay, okay.

    But then. It got weird.

    Jami,
    Out of curiosity I was researching your website more. I watched your video with the guy demanding that you remove his post, and the numerous calls, I didn’t see the post about him.
    You appear quite calm, and you don’t appear to be a vindictive person. Then I read the one about calling the guy some kind of “dwarf”, and his copywrited writings, or so he thought.
    He said he was 6′.
    Its all quite interesting. I hope your producing revenue from the website. I did see some viewing statistics.

    Perhaps pursuing the road of psychologist could be more fruitful? I think I said it before , In general I don’t think people are bad people, but rather lack of understanding their past,
    and proceeding in life more constructivly than destructively would have better end results for them.
    Jail is punishment for the wrongs of men and woman, some throw away their lives. I watch “Lock Down”, don’t know if you ever saw it, but many men and women have thrown it all
    away during bursts of anger, or just being angry at their past, and not choosing a better way. Some of them are so intelligent and charismatic it just seems such a waste. In real crimes
    and In your posts perhaps anger leads the way, and the targets are ojectified. There seems not be a chance for both parties to be more human, or draw the more agressive one into a more
    humane discussion. I think in general women are more in tune with humanity , and men can often operate just on animal instinct. No excuse here, just an observation.

    I don’t know if your dating , and I have to be careful what I say cause you;ll think im patronizing you for what you;ll consider obvious reasons….you are a naturally pretty lady, and obvoiusly
    quite intelligent , insightful, and industrious, and I am hoping you can share that with a significant other.

    I know men and women can be quite cruel and disrespectful, and again I don’t think it is inate. Anger is often self directed feelings that end up being lashed outward to try to get some peace from the self torture.
    I hope you are doing the right thing with your website, the reasons are clear
    and fully understandable. But maybe someone with your skill and perception should be on the prevention side vs the punishment side. Perhaps the people you profile are acting out because they know no better way. I really hope
    it doesn’t make them more angry and cruel. In any case I;ll have to trust in your gut feelings.

    Okay. So you started reading my site and the one thing that you gleaned from your “research” is that the dwarf has a six inch doodler? Seriously?

    And then you’re giving me career advice… Then suddenly, we’re talking about television shows…? And then you tell me I’m a pretty lady!?

    For fuck’s sake. And that you hope I can share all of my wonderfulness with a significant other? Because really, that’s how I’ll know I’m finally worth something… When I’ve GOT somebody, right? Damn, who needs a shrink when I’ve got free psychological help from a MORON?

    So, to summarize, you’re telling me that what I’m doing here on Date Wrecks is doing more harm than good? For the wrecks in question…? Correct? Nobody ever said I was a humanitarian, homie.

    So at this point, I’m nearly done. Ready to just move on.

    Listen, I was really looking forward to replacing your post with a sincere apology. I could never do it though, because of the arrogance that drips from your casually placed asides, intent on insulting me or Emily. You’re a dick, dude and if your girlfriend finds out about this post, I hope she kicks your ass hard to the curb.

    No dice.

    Then it gets really good… I was waiting for him to quit being such a punk and turn into a bitch.

    Jami,
    I tried to write some heart felt feelings, and somehow your interpeting it as an insult. You have called me every name under the sun. For what reason I have no idea.
    If you can’t be reasonable I will contact my lawyer and let him handle it. Your full name [redacted, heh, though it ain't hard to find], your IP address, your in Atlanta, and your tel number (404-865-1557) are all on the web.
    So my lawyer should have no problem taking care of this. You can’t just post pictures of people, copy private discussions that in fact were coerced and led on by :Emilty” and post them on your website that
    intentionally tries to destroys peoples characters without knowing anything about them.

    I honestly don’t care about the picture, its like 20years old, and what I said I could hardly care about, it was more for principle for you to take the post down.
    But if you have so much hostility than perhaps legal meaures can soften your bad attitude.

    No, cocksucker. I haven’t even started with the name calling yet. But yea, why don’t you have your lawyer call me at 404-865-1557… he can leave me a message about his most recent internet date and how horrible it went.

    So now, after ALL of this, he doesn’t care about the pictures. He is going to call his lawyer based on PRINCIPLE.

    C’mon mister. Puff up yer chest. Lemme see ya!

    Dude, do what you will. But conversations that occurred between you and Emily are not “private”. The picture I uploaded was downloaded from an OkCupid server, not one that you own and therefore, it isn’t your picture anymore to complain about. And I’m not trying to destroy character — in order to do that, there would have to be character in place initially. What I’m doing is exposing the wretched and horrible and clueless online daters that offend and horrify the rest of that are actually intending to meet a suitable partner online.

    I just hope you don’t have to pay a consult fee to meet with your attorney because he will tell you that what I’ve done is perfectly within my rights according to the First Amendment. If you want to go to battle with me, good sir, I suggest you reassess your measures because you are NOT the first jerkoff to cry “lawyer!” when he’s been embarrassed by his own behavior online.

    Jami

    Ohhh, now he’s really fired up! I’m ignoring his emails.

    keep using derogatory language…………………….
    You have used more bad language numerous times here than in my little short so called conversation with “Emily”. She adimitted to watching “kinky porn” not me. She admitted to keeping dildos. And with a child in the house.
    I;ll have my lawyer check her child living conditions.
    Excuse me , my character is in place, yours obvioulsy is not with all the unjust swear words you have used in these emails that have been saved.
    So yes you have attempted to distroy my character
    Im not an online dater. My lawyer went to Columbia, I have spoken to him already tonite.
    Keep swearing thats really gonna help your case.

    I’ll keep on cussin’ if’n you promise to keep on abusing the damn period key.

    She’s got dildos! In the house!? A single woman has dildos in the house! With CHILDREN! [shriiiiiiiiiek!] The horror! Thanks for having your lawyer check in on her kid’s living conditions. I’m pretty sure there’s a State Department for that and I would luuuurve to be on the line when you ring them up and say, “Uhh… Yea so there’s this woman named Emily. I don’t know where she lives, but uhhh… She’s got a dildo… And uhh… Children….” They would hang up on your ass SO fast.

    And it’s so cute! He called them “swear words”. I’ll quote the judge who kicked my exhusband’s ass in the courtroom the last time he thought it would be a good idea to drag my tenacious ass in there, “So, she’s a grown woman who cusses…? What’s the big deal?”

    And so he emails me AGAIN.

    Jami,

    I want to be clear that you are not willing to remove the disparaging post you have put up of me on your website. I have a meeting with my friend/criminal lawyer this afternoon.

    In addition I mentioned to him the harassing emails you have sent me that I have saved with the constant noxious verbage that you feel you have the right to use, which is actually illegal as well.
    There is no “consultation” fee in that the lawyer is a close friend of mine.
    I will also speak with another friend of mine who is high up in police enforcement on a national level.

    If the post if not off today I will begin the above proceedings. Your anger towards men cannot obvioulsy be controlled, so perhaps outside forces will change that for you.
    Once again the lillte so called conversation with so called ” Emily, was meant to be a joke, which by her aidding and abetting it resulted in what it was.
    Good Luck to you
    You also post the “removal of posts” right on your website…which again you choose not to observe. Any rational person can see by my emails I appologized fully for the leading conversation.
    That is a legal condition you posted on your own website. An apology is not open to your subjective viewpoint. An apology is an apology!!!

    If need be I think I can accomplish having your website taken down in its entirerty for twisting peoples words, stealing their likeness, and using it for illgotton gain, to help calm the venon you
    have for men.

    Good Luck To you>

    A criminal lawyer!? Really. That’s awesome. Let me know when he finds the law that says I’m now allowed to cuss.

    I’ll just be here. You know… waiting and shit. Oh, and while I’m waiting, I’ll just doodle pictures of what I think the imaginary “National Policemen” look like. I’m thinking something like this:

    13443 412809918983 36803138983 4325843 6199751 n Hes A She? Shes A He? Oh... No. Sorry.

    (Yea, yea… I have a typo on it. Whatever, we’re moving on. The story is almost over. Don’t fuck with the momentum.)

    And gimme a minute to look up venon. I don’t know what it is, but I’ve apparently got it real bad for men.

    And he did it! He’s going to call the Internet Gestapo and GET MY WEBSITE TAKEN DOWN! Pshew! Man, I’m glad the internet police are there so that any and all offending and insulting websites can be swiftly exterminated by the quick hands of justice!

    So I continued to ignore his emails. And he keeps writing them.

    Jami,
    I think my quick reactions are possibly in line with yours. I honestly think I can proceed legally but I really would prefer not to. I think we are turning something small into something more than it deserves.
    I will ask you once again kindly what I need to do to remove the post.

    I am asking this one last time for us to handle this is in a rational way without the hyperbole being associated with it.
    If this is unreasonable for you then I will proceed my legal courses. You have quoted in your site you are not here to intentionally hurt people, and I am appealing to that side of you.

    Please advise…………………

    I would advise you to quit fucking around with your period key on your keyboard before the motherfucker cracks under all the pressure of your thick finger. I picture him, bouncing back and forth between enraged and pacing his living room and then sitting down, taking a deep breath and using words like “kindly” and “rational” and “appealing”.

    Fuck you.

    So, finally… I leveled with him.

    Listen… I think I was pretty clear, but let me break it down for you the way my parents did when I was a kid. When you apologize, it’s not about the other person. It’s not about how they’re feeling or what their circumstances are. It’s about you and what you’ve done wrong. That’s it.

    By waxing poetic about Emily’s apparently unfortunate situation as a single parent (which, by the way, is insulting and laughable), you are inferring things about Emily that have nothing to do with your apology.

    You then go on to suggest that you hope I’ve got a partner… As if having a partner would somehow validate me more as a human being. Insulting.

    Your apology should be about you and why what you did was wrong. It should be about what you plan to do in the future to keep from making the same mistakes. And it should actually have the words, “I’m sorry” somewhere in it directed, sincerely, towards the Date Wrecks audience and Emily and myself specifically for the name-calling. Neither Emily nor myself called you a name in our commentary on the post.

    And regarding the harassing emails, seriously dude… YOU contacted me and YOU left at least ten harassing comments on my website including comments where you suggested that “what goes around comes around” and that you were “very close to getting my address” as well as discussion of “turning the tables” — all of those statements were received in a threatening manner and the sheer volume of your comments in conjunction with WHAT was said in those comments was harassing. You are the one who continues to send repeated emails to me vacillating from an aggressive tone to whatever this currently is.

    I’m not in the business of hurting people but I am also not the type of person that will just fold under the pressure of a bully. I know for a fact that you do not have a legal case against me as I have done nothing illegal here. Your continued threats are doing nothing to plead your case with me about removing the post, in fact, every time you buck up your chest and try to be a bully, it just makes me that much sure you aren’t sincere, that you don’t think what you did was wrong, and that your post shouldn’t come down.

    If you’re sincere about removing the post, just write an apology that is sincere. It wouldn’t be that hard if you really meant it.

    Jami

    PWND.

    Grasping what was left of his testicles, this wreck swiftly typed up his apology. I replaced his post, as promised.

    Do you guys understand how hard this job is now?? Hahah. I’m still laughing.

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